How to Travel the World for Less After 60: 80 Ways with Jan Yager--Episode 139

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Intro

The question Adriane Berg hears most from Ageless Traveler readers isn't where to eat in Paris. It's "How do you afford to travel so much?" In this episode, Adriane talks with prolific author and speaker Jan Yager, whose book Around the World in 80 Ways answers that question with 80 practical solutions for seniors who want to keep traveling, even on a fixed income.

Key takeaways

  1. Discounts follow status. Senior, student and veteran discounts exist with airlines, hotels and attractions. Know which ones you qualify for and ask.
  2. Use points strategically, never go into debt. Jan describes a father who put every wedding expense on a points card, then used the points for a trip afterward. She suggests The Points Guy newsletter to learn which cards suit travel. Points often work best toward hotel stays.
  3. Make your home work for you. Safe home sharing can cover lodging abroad. Combined with points for airfare, it can cut a trip's cost roughly in half.
  4. Pet sitting and house sitting are a free way to see the world. Older adults are especially trusted as sitters, and pet owners who think they can't travel can use sitters too.
  5. Your skills are marketable. Teach English, volunteer, join the Peace Corps, or check whether your university has satellite campuses abroad. Start by naming where you want to go and what you can offer.
  6. Barter, and ask boldly. Jan traded a week of English tutoring for a Madrid apartment. As Adriane says, after the last no comes the first yes.
  7. Travel with friends and family. Sharing a room saves money, though it's worth knowing your companion's sleep habits first. Jan also took her family along on work trips to Japan, Australia and Sweden.
  8. Group and alumni trips lower costs. Charter flights and school-sponsored trips can be bargains. Try a reunion abroad instead of at home.
  9. Books and speaking can send you abroad. Jan's travels came through author tours, foreign rights deals, book fairs, and even a calendar-of-events listing she created. Toastmasters and the National Speakers Association are affordable places to build speaking skills.
  10. Lead with a big "why." Pick a specific destination and date and know what you can give. The tips only work if you act on them.

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Transcript:

The Ageless Traveler Podcast: Answering the Question of How to Travel the World

Adriane Berg: Hello, Hello, Hello. This is Adriane Berg. And this is the Ageless Traveler. And the one question I get from you more than any other, and I always expect a question about where to eat in Paris, but that's not what you ask me. You ask me, how do you do it? How do you go around the world? I was thinking, boy, I'm just going to sit down and write about this and tell you all my hints and tips. And then I read a book, and that book was not written by me, but it could have been. It was by Jan Yeager, and she is a prolific author, well known, well renowned author. But this particular book is around the world in 80 ways.

Jan Yeager's "Around the World in 80 Ways" Offers Solutions for Travelers on a Budget

And she answers your question that you ask me all the time with 80 different solutions. So thank you so much, Jan, for being with us today.

Jan Yeager: Oh, thank you so much. It's a privilege.

Adriane Berg: Well, you know, people do want to know, how do you travel so much? How do you travel even around the world? And one of their biggest problems is it costs, particularly if you're on a fixed income. Now, you really do have the hints and tips that I have used to live a traveler's life. No joke. So I'm going to start right away with what people want to know.

Leveraging Discounts and Frequent Flyer Miles for Affordable Travel Adventures

One is, what if they simply want good discounts? If you were going to say one or two hints and tips that they can find more elaborated in the book, what would it be?

Jan Yeager: Sure. Well, discounts are very much tied to status. there are senior discounts, there are discounts for students, there are discounts for veterans. So it's important to know where your status is and also anything you're approaching, whether it's the airlines, whether it's the places you're going to be going to, and also frequent flyer miles. You know, you don't want to get into credit card debt, but you do want to strategically use those cards to get those points that you can use. A, former dentist, his daughter was getting married. Now, it was going to be one of those big, expensive weddings. He went out of the way to put every single expense on a personal credit card that was tied to points. And it enabled he and his wife to recover from the wedding and take themselves on a trip. So, you know, that's another way that it's a, it's a form of discount. The Points Guy is a wonderful newsletter to subscribe to because you need to know which card and which points are better for travel. Some are much better to use for, for the hotel. You get a better deal using the points towards the hotel and talking about a discount.

Navigating Travel Discounts with Jan Yeager's Practical Guidance and Inspirational Insights

Sometimes the points won't completely cover the hotel, but you can pick in a smaller amount of money and then you basically are getting a free hotel room.

Adriane Berg: You know, one of the things I want to point out about your book around the world in 80 ways, is that there are prompts in it. This is so important because we all know about points. We all know about the possibility of seeing you discount this or that. What you do in the book is you actually send people to different websites, to different companies that will unravel as easily as possible all the ways to navigate these discounts. And you say at the end that not every One of the 80 Ways could be used by everybody.

Jan Yeager: Right.

Adriane Berg: You give a lot of inspiration with regard to making it happen. So I've been to 140 countries. I'm counting.

Early Travel Experiences and Discovering Affordable Ways to Explore the World

Jan Yeager: I'm very impressed. it's been hard to admit it, but I am turning 78. I feel like 35. Okay. But what started me on this journey as a 23 year old woman, I was writing my first book and it was going to be a history of vegetarianism. And I knew that I had to go to India and talk about discounts. I was working at Macmillan as an editorial assistant and then I became an assistant editor. My starting salary was $5200 a, ah year. I was promoted to an assistant editor, $7200. I was living in my father's dental office in the back room because I couldn't afford rent and I wanted to be in the New York area. So I went to my boss and I said, I, I, in order to get $1,000 round trip to India, I have to be away for four weeks. And I only as a new, relatively new employee got two weeks. So she says, well then you're just going to have two weeks without pay. And I did that. So in India I stayed in the Gandhi Peace Foundation. A dollar a night. A dollar a night. I networked. My sister was working at the time at the a, place that had a lot of people. So she put out feelers. Those contacts didn't personally put me up, but they found someone to put me up. So I developed a love of travel. I think part of it was jealousy. My sister did junior year abroad and I missed out and I'm like, okay, I'm going to find a way to make this happen. Another thing you talked about discounts.

The Power of Group Travel and Encouraging Students to Embrace International Experiences

I was doing graduate school courses at Temple University and I saw on the the board, you know, the bulletin board, because it was before Craigslist or Facebook. And it said we have a school sponsored trip for three weeks to London and Scotland and Paris. And it was outrageously inexpensive. It was a charter flight. But certainly you could put that together, get your alumni group together. Hey, we all want to go this destination. Instead of having your 50 year reunion in the US now target a city that's safe and a, great place to go. And then you would be able to pay less because it's a chartered flight. So I developed the love of international travel early on and I just, I teach college. I encourage my students to look into traveling summer abroad, taking courses.

Finding Your 'Why' to Travel: Overcoming Barriers and Embracing Life's Adventures

I warn them that once they're out in the world, it's not going to be so easy to have all that free time. But a lot of older people who are in good health because that's the very important criteria for being able to travel, they're not taking advantage of how wonderful it is that there's this wide world out there that does help you get a new perspective on your own world.

Adriane Berg: Yes, of course. It's part of life purpose. And volunteering. And volunteering. And yet we do hear the money issue is there. But there's another issue here. When you hear the enthusiasm that I have about travel. That you have about travel, you know, I'm going to, he's not my favorite philosopher, but I'm actually going to quote Nietzsche, to paraphrase it, he really said in the vernacular, the bigger the why, the easier the how. And so when you read around the world in 80 ways, come with a big why, because you're going to get the how from that book from your.

Jan Yeager: Oh, sure.

Adriane Berg: But you're not going to do these things. You're not going to do these things if you don't have the passion and the why. I'll, give you one example.

Sharing Your Home and Pet Sitting: Creative Ways to Fund Your Travels

Jan Yeager: Sure.

Adriane Berg: You show people how to safely share their home so that they can go free of charge to other accommodations all over the world. That is one free way that you can, if you're willing to do this, really have accommodations paid for. And then as you say, if you put that together with points on your air, you've maybe cut the cost in half. Right?

Jan Yeager: Sure.

Adriane Berg: But everything takes a little time. It takes a little going on. AI and asking where is the best place for me to post my home? How do I know that the person is safe? How do I get here? You have to do these things. And they can save thousands of dollars.

Jan Yeager: Oh, definitely. Another, another fun thing.

Unique Travel Opportunities: From Animal Sitting to Family Adventures Abroad

I interviewed a woman who, she was A dog sitter?

Adriane Berg: Yes.

Jan Yeager: And that's how she got around the world. She found families through there are dog sit, animal sitting, not just dog sitting services that matched her up with people. So, you know, they were there a couple of months a year and then they would let, let someone live in their place and watch their dog or their cat. So there's, there's so many ways. But let's get to what you talked about, the why.

Adriane Berg: Yes.

Jan Yeager: Okay. I made a commitment to my children that, I mean, I didn't verbalize it, but I was not going to be the kind of person who said, we can't afford it as a family. We went to Japan, we went to England. And how did this happen? So I, through my, my work, I was told that I was going to be a speaker in Japan. So the person who hired me said, when can you do it? So I said, let me check my schedule and get back to you now.

Making Travel a Family Affair: Utilizing Work Opportunities and Creating Lasting Memories

I was not going to check my schedule. I checked my children's schedule and I found out the day they were finishing middle school and high school. They were 10 and 14 at the time. So I call her back, I say, we, I'm, available to leave on June 31st or whatever the last day of June was. And then I waited till we got all the contracts formalized and then I said, you don't have to pay for them. I'm picking up the tab. But I want to have my husband and two sons come along. And she said, that's fine with me, but it was for the US Navy, so they had to have the same security checks and all that kind of stuff. But it was a life changing trip. We went to, you know, I did my thing in Japan. My husband, I never got to go to Disney, in Japan because when I was speaking, my husband took the boys to, Japan, Disney. For my author tour to Australia, I did the same exact thing. And I brought them to, Melbourne and Sydney where I did my, in my interviews. And then they had to go back home and I went on to Auckland, New Zealand myself. But I got the travel into my kids so that my son, when he got married, his wife's best friend decided to have a destination wedding.

Travel as a Family and with Friends: Expanding Horizons and Sharing Experiences

And where does she pick? New Zealand. He finally got to New Zealand with his spouse. So travel opens up your, not only your world to other people and other cultures and other foods, but as a family. A lot of people, when they think travel, they think solo. well, my best friend, she's a widow and she travels with her girlfriend who Is married, but her husband does not like to travel. So Joyce and her girlfriend, they've been to the Antarctica, they've been to Egypt, they've been to China as friends. And that's how they, you know, save money, because they, they share a room. she only had one bad experience where it was a friend she had never traveled with before. And it turned out the friend snored.

Adventures and Mishaps: Lessons Learned from Traveling and Embracing the Unexpected

Adriane Berg: Oh, my goodness. So a few comments. I'm a friend who I travel with another travel rider who took a pill to really sleep well. And this was in Bhutan, in the Himalayas. And the fire went out.

Jan Yeager: Oh, no.

Adriane Berg: I was freezing and I could not get her up. No, it was colder in the hut than it was outside. And I ended up sleeping in the snow because I could not open the little, window so that I could create a fire. And we needed the strength of two. But she took a pill. So there's always something. But let's go back to this sort of thing for the older adult, they can't just go to a hostel or sleep in the snow. They really have to be able to afford some level of luxury. So I did want to mention and why I was so impressed with your book.

Trust Sitters and Pet Sitters: Solutions for Older Adults Who Love to Travel

We just did a newsletter on pets and you and I both came up with the same trust sitters. And we have so much information that's workable, that's usable for people to go and make that happen to either use a pet sitter so they don't say I can't travel because I own a pet or to be a pet sitter, as you suggest.

Jan Yeager: Sure.

Adriane Berg: They get freebies all over the world.

Jan Yeager: Oh, sure.

Adriane Berg: And older adults, my people are, trusted. If you see an older adult, you're more likely to want them to come to your home to water your than anybody else. It's a big opening. Now when we come back, I want to talk to you about something that's actually personal to you but can save a lot of people money. We have a lot of teachers, former teachers and professors listening.

Leveraging Professional Skills for Travel Opportunities Abroad: A Teacher's Perspective

You're one of them. You are a teacher. We come back. I want to talk about that part of your book that guides people to be able to use their skills to travel abroad and even to work abroad. Don't you guys go anywhere. We'll be right back.

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Jen Yeager's 'Around the World in 80 Ways': Practical Guidance for Lifelong Travel

And now we're back. And we're back with Jen Yeager. Now she is a prolific author of ah, many many books on how to's how to finish everything you start. That's one of her books. I have to read that one. But this book is about her love of travel and what she's doing in it is what we try to do here. Help you never stop traveling with 80 hints and tips and guidance on how to actually implement this is the point. These hints you could all know the hints and tips. Knowing is the booby prize. What this book does is it helps you implement this.

Working and Teaching Abroad: Utilizing Your Skills to Fund International Adventures

One of the things is you can work abroad, you can volunteer abroad and get some compensation for it and you can teach English. There's so many things but again you need that great. Why Tell us a little bit about some of the hints and tips you have in your book that have to do with working abroad, teaching abroad, teaching English, that sort of thing.

Jan Yeager: Sure. Well Adriane, the first thing is exactly what you said. Know that you have these skills that are marketable. Now Covid made a lot of people looking at the the way to make money by not leaving. In other words, oh I can speak on zoom to Mongolia, to Japan, to Indonesia, but it's not the same thing as going there. So you need to target what do you want to teach? Where do you want to teach it? a lot of younger people will pursue teaching English in Japan. There are so many opportunities. Some are short term, Some may require a longer commitment. So you have to decide, where do you want to go? What do you have that's marketable? And there's this marvelous thing that I wish I had bought stock in when it first happened. Google. But you can find out so much to teach in English, around the world. You know, what places are safe today and who is looking for speakers. I'm an adjunct associate professor, and I have in my new book, the Adjuncts Handbook, a section on teaching internationally. but you don't have to have advanced degrees or be an adjunct. You can just have something that you can offer. it could be a skill, like writing, painting. It could be, health, you know, mental health issues. You know, so much of it is just making the gold. You can put in an alert for international trips. If you have a skill and you're retired, you can go back to your university or your graduate school and find out where they have satellite institutions. There are opportunities everywhere. There are, associations and agencies that are partnering people. So, you know, just the first step is saying, as a goal, I want to travel to this country, or I want to travel anywhere internationally, and where could my skills be welcomed?

Making Travel Happen: Practical Steps and the Importance of a Strong 'Why'

Adriane Berg: Yeah. So what Jan does is she asks you to be very specific, not, I want to travel around the world, even though that's the name of the book, but I want to go here, and this is when I want to go, and this is what I have to give. And then from that is the guidance of step by step, the practical side of it. And it's a very practical book, but it's not going to do anybody any good. Just like my, hints and tips all over the world. My books don't do you any good if you really don't want to do it, because each of these things take some work. Now, one of the things you mentioned was the Peace Corps. the Peace Corps does have a senior corps.

Jan Yeager: Yeah.

Adriane Berg: People over the age of 60. So all of these take something from you and give something to you. Now, I want to go to the. The thing that you actually do. You're a speaker. People think, well, I'm not a public speaker.

Becoming a Speaker: Developing Your Craft and Finding Opportunities to Share Your Message

I can't really make it happen. And it does take a lot. But in your experience, how would you go about it if. Because I started this many years ago when there was, there were very few people talking about what I was talking about, so it was valuable there. Today it's a cluttered field. How would you go about getting gigs to speak in other countries or other states?

Jan Yeager: Sure.

Adriane Berg: At the beginning.

Jan Yeager: Sure. Well, in my case it was very much tied to the books I was writing. And, my UK publisher, I was the first author they brought over from America in 100 years. And they sent me on a tour of, throughout the uk, Scotland, Ireland. But now I would recommend anyone who's interested in speaking who feels shy about their skills. Toastmasters is very affordable. It's an international organization and you can go to virtual or in person meetings where you're speaking before peers. You'll get comfortable speaking. And the wonderful thing that I found over the years, even though I'm no longer a member of the National Speakers association, but just saying that you're a speaker and Toastmasters, you know, you can visit the local chapters and people are very accommodating and helpful about being a speaker and wanting to be a speaker. The National Speakers association has local chapters where you can go on a permanent or an occasional basis to their monthly meetings and be exposed to excellent speakers. And they even have speaker academies you can join. So, you know, it's. And also another important, important thing is, that you can develop one speech working with the speaking coach that becomes your signature speech. You don't have to, you know, someone I know who decided they didn't want to be a standup comedian because you either change your M material or change your audience. And with standup it takes about a year to get a 15 minute set. So this person chose another career. The fun thing about speaking is you can have your signature speech and take it around the world.

The Author's Journey: Using Your Book as a Passport to Explore the World

You can do the same speech on my accomplishments as a police officer and how it applies in the uk, how it applies in Amsterdam, and take that to different cities.

Adriane Berg: And of course what you have is you even show people that agents and really how to do it in a practical way. And we come back, we're, going to do our third segment on this topic, but really go into your wheelhouse because you mentioned that so many of the ways to be sent to different places around the world is because you've written a book. And that is your wheelhouse helping people make sure that they get their topics, write the book, promote the book, and then travel because they have become authors. So let's take a few minutes, to Hear this wonderful information about some of the free things you can get from the ageless traveler. We'll come back. When we come back, we're going to talk about the possibility. Is there a book in you? And, regardless of its topic, how do you use it to help travel? Don't you guys go anywhere.

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From Author to Traveler: How Creating and Promoting Books Can Lead to Global Exploration

I want you to use it as the bridge for my listeners to not just get the idea of how they can write a book, but how that is a conduit to travel.

Jan Yeager: Sure. Well, when I, started my own publishing company after successfully publishing with major houses, 20 different books, including Scribner and Doubleday and Wiley. But my very first book through my own company was called Friendships, the Power of Friendship and How It Shapes Our Lives. And there's something called Chase's Calendar of Events. So I created the National New Friends Old Friends Week, and I put that week into Chases. That is how the librarian at the naval base in Japan found me. She found the national New Friends Old Friends Week, which is the first Sunday, the Sunday after Mother's Day, because this goes back 30 years. My mother was still alive, but many of the women I knew were losing their mothers. And I said, oh, what a great idea to have a friendship week the week after Mother's Day so you can celebrate your friends. So that was one way that it helped me to get travel. there's other ways with books. I am an expert in foreign rights. I've sold into 36, soon to be 38 languages. And one of the ways I have a book called Foreign Rights and Wrongs, I take people through the step by step way to sell your book.

The Power of Foreign Rights and Book Tours: Unlocking International Travel Opportunities

And Foreign right. One of the things about Foreign right is that having a book in another language can help you. So my husband and I co wrote a thriller called Untimely Death. And this guy had a website at the time where you could post your book for the nominal fee of $50. And lo and behold, a woman in Sweden who had an indie press found the book, loved it, did a deal with us, and lo and behold, a year later she says, quote, would you and Fred like to come to Sweden to do an author tour? So once again I made sure that my sons could come with. So we went to Stockholm and she put us up in a hotel that had previously been a prison. And it was magical. And we used that trip as a jump off point to go to Denmark. And then we went to, London on the way back. One of the important things is as a book consultant, I tell people, don't rule out the rest of the world. And there are ways, if you're doing a novel, you can consider if there's flexibility, planting some foreign associations that might make it more likely someone's going to ask you to come. Now let me tell you my favorite, around the world in 80 ways. And this was an anomaly and it never happened again. But I went up to a publisher at Book Expo, which unfortunately doesn't exist anymore. But I said to him, you have all these books. Do you have anyone doing your foreign rights? And he said, no. I said, well, hire me. So he hired me and over six months he sent me to book fairs in Abu Dhabi, Prague, Bologna, London and eventually Frankfurt. So. Oh, and Taiwan. So it was a wonderful experience where the work was the way that I got to travel.

Adriane Berg: I want to make this point about around the world in 80 ways. When you read it, it's a how to book.

Implementing Travel Strategies: Turning Book Knowledge into Real-World Adventures

It truly is. It goes, from one hint and tip, right? One hint and tip to the next hint of tip. Very simple book in the sense of here's what you do, here's what you do, here's what you do. That's not the problem. Get the book and try to make the practical ideas in it inspire you to really do it.

Jan Yeager: Exactly.

Adriane Berg: I want to bring out from your stories, Jan, are, this, you never know. You never know what's going to come out. Going to somebody and say, hey, could I handle your foreign rights? Right. You never know what it's going to be like saying to a boss or to your husband, you know what, maybe you should write a book. You don't know. Try it, and this is the thing that I don't want you to do is to get stuck in the comfort zone.

Jan Yeager: That's so great. Let me share one of my favorite barter stories. Okay. So I was another client. I was his consultant on publicity and foreign rights, and he was nice enough to agree that he'd send me to Frankfurt. Now, I had been to Frankfurt, the book fair, many times, and what I try to do is add a new city whenever I travel to somewhere I've already been because it might my age.

Bartering for Travel: Trading Skills for Accommodation and Unforgettable Experiences

Who knows if I'll ever get back there. So I had a woman I was working with who lived in Madrid. So I got in my head that I want to go to Madrid before Frankfurt, okay? Now, Frankfurt was covered by the publisher as a job, but Madrid was going to be on my dime. And Madrid, like Tokyo, like London, is a very expensive city. So I said to this young woman, I didn't know her age at the time, I said to this woman who was working with me just informally through lots of business, but we hadn't actually done a deal yet. I said, so and so your English is great, but I want to make an offer. Would you put me up in Madrid at your apartment for a week and I'll tutor you on perfecting your English more? Guess what she said? Yes.

Adriane Berg: Wow.

Jan Yeager: At that point was, I guess, in my late 60s. So I thought, this woman is going to be like in her 40s, 50s. So she meets me and she's like this young woman of 35. But, you know, and one of the things that came out of it is years later, I was asked to write a book about non stereotypical animals for children's books.

The World Opens Up: Embracing New Experiences Through Travel and Asking Outrageously

And she had a relationship with her rabbit that I never saw before. So I wrote a book called the Reading Rabbit. And that's what I want to share with everyone on this podcast. The world that travel opens up to you. I'm shocked that there are people who will not go an hour or two outside of their town or city to have the experience of not only the barter working. A friend of mine, Linda Swindling, she wrote a wonderful book called Ask Outrageously. And it's one of those books that you almost don't have to read the book. The title is so empowering. I remember asking, would you put me up in your apartment for to barter me teaching you English, you know, perfecting your English? I'm like, am I really? Are those words coming out of my mouth? Am I? And then she says, yes. And it was wonderful. And we've you know, had this, long term, long distance, friendship over all these years.

Receiving Opportunities: Overcoming Hesitation and Embracing the Possibilities of Travel

Adriane Berg: And you know, I have another saying with that, which is after the last no comes the first yes. So don't just ask outrageously once. Sometimes you have to ask outrageously many, many, many times.

Jan Yeager: Sure.

Adriane Berg: For me, it's very hard. I have to say I am not one of those. But even in my meditation, everybody think I'm nuts when I do the end, you know, and I'm just lying there and they ask you, do you want to put your hands up to receive? I always put my hands up to receive because I have so much trouble asking verbally that asking physically actually gives me the impetus to get up and ask verbally. So wonderful hints and tips that you have in all of your books. But I don't want them to just sit on the shelf. That's good for the writer, it's not good for the reader. And that's what this show is about. It's really not about which website you should go to. You'll read it in Jan's book. You'll know exactly which website to go to to, apply to be a house sitter or go to the, the Peace Corps to get a job or to you'll no problem. Will you do it right?

Jan Yeager: I want to get postcards from everyone who's inspired to actually get out there and do it.

Adriane Berg: That would be wonderful. Wouldn't that be a great thing for them and for you and for everybody? Please know that at this time, everything we're doing for you is absolutely free.

Ageless Traveler Mission: Inspiring Seniors to Explore the World and Give Back

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